Sen. Adam Schiff on AI regulation, free speech, and impeaching Trump one more time

What happened

Schiff sits on a number of committees with oversight into tech and AI: intellectual property, antitrust (the law against a company using its size to shut out competition), privacy and technology — it’s all there. Verge subscribers, don’t forget you get exclusive access to ad-free Decoder wherever you get your podcasts.

That of course fell against the backdrop of President Trump gathering AI CEOs to the White House to sign a non-binding pact in which they agree to, you know, do a good job keeping AI safe. One nerdy note: you’re going to hear me ask the senator about something called Chevron deference and a Supreme Court case called Loper Bright.

Basically, the Supreme Court overturned a Reagan-era precedent saying courts would defer to experts in agencies when the law was vague. That seems awfully relevant to the idea of creating a new agency to regulate AI, which Sen.